Thanks that should get me pointed in the right direction I think my Machinest has build several 4.6 strokers but wants me to bring him the videos so he can watch them to make sure everything is right I got my rods today what do you guys think about ordering a crank from the local part store I think it was 189.00$ with a 40$ core all the ones I looked at on eBay and other sources were 300 to 400$ and the one drone the parts store has the shorter nose on it so I won't have to have it milled or buy a spacer and also what do you guy thinks about the engine kit from northern auto parts of coarse I will be upgrading everything I can http://www.northernautoparts.com/part/ek-ek0026 thanks in advance for all your input