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York 210 A/C Compressor Makes an Onboard Air Supply for a Jeep CJ-7

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#1 lastCJ7

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 04:59 PM

Hi, Moses, I had an old AMC Corcord York 210 A/C turned into onboard air for my CJ-7 Jeep. The air supply worked great for years. I thought I killed it, so I swapped it out.  I think I let the oil run dry on the old one, and it was running even with the power cut.

 

Now I don't hear the clutch kick in when I add power to it. How do I know if this clutch is good? I hope this one is good. I added oil and it turns and makes a pumping sound.


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#2 Moses Ludel

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 11:43 PM

Hi, LastCJ7!  For those who aren't aware, the York air conditioning compressors make a terrific air supply source for off-road vehicles.  York A/C compressors were popular with Ford, AMC, I-H and others that wanted a rugged, high-output compressor unit.

 

Also unknown to many, including those building air supply systems for off-road use, is that the York compressor you describe has a "crankcase" and oil reserve for the crankshaft and bearings.  When this crankcase runs dry, just like with an engine's crankcase, the compressor bearings and crankshaft, pistons and other parts, starve for lubrication and fail, often seizing.

 

The clutch you describe is a simple, magnetic field design.  You can test the clutch engagement by magnetizing the clutch.  There is one wire coming from the clutch unit, and if you apply 12-volt current here, you activate the magnet and lock up the clutch.  Simple test is to run a fused jump lead to that wire.  If the clutch locks, the magnet is good.  These magnets do fail and should be available.  Make sure you have a sufficient ground, although this is generally assured by the metal case attaching solidly to the engine.  It is presumed that your grounds to the engine are good.

 

Test the magnet/clutch activation.  When activated, you will see and hear the clutch engage.  When engaged with the engine running, the load on your engine should be noticeable if the compressor has good seal.  Clutch engagement causes the compressor's crankshaft to turn.

 

I've always wondered what is normal "oil consumption" for these compressors.  Do you add much oil after the initial fill and leveling?  I know the crankcase oil level should be checked periodically.  I would guess that very little oil gets past the rings and into the air supply.  If it does, do you filter the air to eliminate oil contamination when inflating tires and using compressed air?  For air tool operation, this is a non-issue, as it's advantageous to oil your air tools regularly!

 

Kilby Enterprises does a lot of onboard air stuff with the 210 compressor.  This is a high output unit, and in top form, it is capable of running air tools!  One concern with the York units is mounting position, as the suction port must be on top.  See the notes at the Kilby Enterprises site.  Kilby also has parts if you need them, plus this York Manual in PDF download sections.  For the clutch service section, click here for PDF service steps—thanks, Kilby Enterprises!

 

Let us know whether the clutch engages...If not, it's straightforward to replace the magnet—when you find a new or good used one.  Kilby Enterprises does offer new service parts for these units.

 

Moses



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:10 PM

Ok thanks I'll take a look this week.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:20 PM

Ok, so this is what I found out. On top of York compressors there is an S for suction. My old York had the S on the right side, my new York has it on the left. My York stands up and on the S side I run an air filter. After switching these, my compresor works. But with no "click" like the old one when I hit the power.


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#5 Moses Ludel

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:35 PM

Sounds good and consistent with the info I saw at the Kilby Enterprises website.  Does no click indicate that the compressor runs all the time?  Is there power to the clutch continuously?

 

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 10:27 AM

No I have a switch inside the Jeep to turn it on.

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#7 Moses Ludel

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 01:05 PM

As long as the compressor is not running continuously, you should be okay.  (You'd know from the engine load/rpm change when the unit gets switched on.)  If you're making compressed air, the clutch is live! 

 

Good job there, LastCJ7, great air supply system...What's your reservoir tank volume, or are you running the system straight off the York unit?

 

Moses





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